Who wins in Jack and Ralph's argument and why Do they win through the argument Why or why not?

In "Lord of the Flies," Ralph wins the argument against Jack in the short term because he presents a rational and logical argument for maintaining order and rescue. However, in the long term, Jack gains power and influence through manipulation and fear, ultimately leading to his victory over Ralph by creating a tribe that follows his savage instincts over Ralph's leadership. So, while Ralph may have won the initial argument, Jack ultimately prevails through his brutal tactics.